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What if building better systems starts with becoming better humans?

In this powerful episode of DBA Chronicles, we sit down with Dr. Larry Clay Jr.—a design scientist, professor, and thought leader working at the intersection of innovation ecosystems, sustainability, and quantum thinking.

From a childhood moment of curiosity (and a literal electric shock ) to designing flourishing cities and organizations, Dr. Clay shares a deeply personal and intellectual journey into how systems and people truly thrive.

What you will learn:

  • Why curiosity is the foundation of innovation and leadership
  • The shift from fixing systems to transforming self
  • What quantum leadership and quantum design thinking really mean (and why they matter now)
  • How flourishing, not just performance should define success in organizations
  • The power of designing ecosystems, not just businesses
  • How tools like the Flourishing Business Model Canvas bridge theory and real-world impact

About the Guest

Dr. Larry Clay Jr. is an Assistant Professor of Business at Marymount University’s College of BILT (Business, Innovation, Leadership & Technology), specializing in entrepreneurship, strategy, and innovation ecosystems. His work explores sustainability, complexity theory, and human-centered design helping organizations and communities move toward flourishing, not just functioning.

Larry earned his Ph.D. in Management from Case Western Reserve University, where his dissertation focused on integrative ecosystem management and designing flourishing cities.

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